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atradu sitadu rakstu The role of protein in weight loss and maintenance

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275667598_The_role_of_protein_in_weight_loss_and_maintenance

iesaka uznemt 25-30g proteina 4x diienaa - problema jau ta, ka to var izdarit tikai ar galu/zivi vai proteina pulveriem (vai ari 300 g biezpiena/grieku jogurta)

bet saka, ka 0.8g/kg esot tads minimums svara zaudesanai, vienalga tas sanak tik daudz, ka bez vistas un pulvera neiztikt

bet ok, salasijos ari par low-carb svara zaudesanu un secinaju, ka esmu uz pareizaa celja !

Higher-protein diets that contain between 1.2 and 1.6 g protein/ kg/day and potentially include meal-specific
protein quantities of at least 25–30 g protein/meal provide improvements in appetite, body weight management, and/or
cardiometabolic risk factors compared with lower-protein diets (Table 2).


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[info]artis
2020-05-04 13:23 (saite)
> problema jau ta, ka to var izdarit tikai ar galu/zivi

Tā nav problēma, tas ir bonuss :-)

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[info]snorke
2020-05-04 13:27 (saite)
jaa, et ja grib est vegetariski, tad atliek kanepju proteins, soja utt,,, nee, man taa nav problema, bet brokastis nekadi nesanak (kaut gan proteina maize ar lasi butu ok)

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[info]pikaczu
2020-05-04 13:44 (saite)
Par siļķēm brokastīs vislabāk pastāstīja Umas Tūrmanes varone Producentos
Leo Bloom : So what time can you get here?

Ulla : Well, Ulla wake up every morning at five AM. From five to seven, Ulla excercise. From seven to eight Ulla take long shower. From eight to nine Ulla eat big Swedish breakfast. Many different herrings. From nine to eleven, Ulla practice her singing und her dancing. And at eleven, Ulla like to have sex. So, what time should Ulla get here?

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[info]snorke
2020-05-04 13:54 (saite)
hahahaha - many different herrings nav sliktas brokastis !

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[info]artis
2020-05-04 14:53 (saite)
Es no rīta parasti ātri uztaisu vienu sūkalu olbaltumvielu izolāta pulvera šeiku (whey protein). Lieta darīta. Nav pārāk garšīgi vai patīkami, bet lieta darīta. Ļoti praktiski.

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[info]snorke
2020-05-04 17:05 (saite)
tas labs variants, tikai sagada maz baudas ! es te atradu tadu collagena proteinu, par ko tiek slavas dziesmas dziedatas, domaju varbut to nopirkt (bet nu pagaidam man ir paka ar whey protein)

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i told them
[info]jojo
2020-05-04 14:10 (saite)
https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/2014-05/high-protein-diets-and-longevity

"Members of the study cohort aged 50–65 reporting high protein intake had a 75% increase in overall mortality and a 4-fold increase in cancer death risk during the following 18 years. These associations were either abolished or attenuated if the proteins were plant-derived. Conversely, high protein intake was associated with reduced cancer and overall mortality in respondents over 65. There was a 5-fold increase in diabetes mortality across all ages for those consuming high-protein diets. These results suggest that low protein intake during middle age followed by moderate to high protein consumption in older adults may optimize health span and longevity."

kā teica viens vegānu māmulis nodzīvojis līdz 90 gadiem un apglabājis visas savas draudzenes - i told them so

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[info]jojo
2020-05-04 14:12 (saite)
gaļēdāju draudzenes. :)

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[info]artis
2020-05-04 14:19 (saite)
Raksta autors: Jacob Schor, ND FABNO. Dr. Jacob Schor. Dr. Schor has been practicing at the Denver Naturopathic Clinic since February 1992

Wikipedia: Naturopathy or naturopathic medicine is a form of alternative medicine that employs an array of pseudoscientific practices branded as "natural", "non-invasive", or promoting "self-healing".

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[info]jojo
2020-05-04 14:20 (saite)
šitie findingi ir supportēti 2016 un 2019 gadā arī tad, ja pirmais onka bija naturopāts.

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[info]jojo
2020-05-04 14:21 (saite)
do better. :)

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[info]artis
2020-05-04 15:32 (saite)
Lūdzu. Šī sieviete, praktizējoša ārste Dr. Gabrielle Lyon var daudz pastāstīt par proteīna nozīmi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl_vjYhhgKY

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[info]snorke
2020-05-04 17:15 (saite)
jaa, to skatijos, tas man ar drusku iedvesmoja manos pareizas esanas meklejumu celos :)

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[info]jojo
2020-05-04 14:25 (saite)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5048552/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30968137

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-020-00607-6

"In conclusion, our study provides evidence that higher total protein intake is associated with higher all-cause mortality, primarily driven by a positive association between animal protein intake and CVD mortality. In contrast, higher plant protein intake is associated with lower all-cause and CVD mortality. Food source and level of protein may play a substantial role as we observed harmful associations of total and animal protein mainly in North American and European populations and beneficial associations of plant protein mainly in North American and Japanese populations. Further studies in other populations with different amounts and food sources of protein intakes or with different protein requirements are needed to improve global dietary recommendations and to define optimal ranges and sources of protein intake for different populations."

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[info]snorke
2020-05-04 14:40 (saite)
visiem siem petijumiem ir sadi minusi

1) kadi proteni un kaa pagatavoti -- makdonalda burgeri vai sauteta ekozivs, tam ir milziga nozime, tas isti nav apskatits

2) tas ir subjektiem, kas nav uz svara zaudesanas dietas

3) tie nesalidzina riskus/mirstibu no obesity un riskus/mirstibu no proteinu esanas

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[info]artis
2020-05-04 14:44 (saite)
Nieki.


1) https://alexleaf.com/2019/05/12/why-protein-restriction-for-longevity-makes-no-sense/
2) https://www.deccanherald.com/opinion/panorama/dietary-studies-mostly-699469.html
3) https://www.vox.com/2016/1/14/10760622/nutrition-science-complicated
4) https://www.salon.com/2019/07/27/nutrition-science-is-broken-this-new-egg-study-shows-why_partner/
5) https://reason.com/2018/09/06/most-nutrition-research-is-bunk/
6) https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/you-cant-trust-what-you-read-about-nutrition/
7) https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/second-opinion-nutrition-causal-1.4810474
8) https://thecounter.org/dietary-guidelines-nutrition-faulty-research-surveys/
9) https://kresserinstitute.com/the-fundamental-problem-with-most-nutrition-research/
10) https://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2019/01/28/any-way-you-slice-it-nutrition-studies-are-controversial/

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[info]jojo
2020-05-04 14:25 (saite)
pēdējais, springerī publicētais ir pavisam silts, publicēts 19/02/2020

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[info]artis
2020-05-04 14:25 (saite)
kā teica viens visēdājs māmulis nodzīvojis līdz 90 gadiem un apglabājis visas savas draudzenes - i told them so

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[info]jojo
2020-05-04 14:27 (saite)
bye. :)

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