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Mūzika:The Beauty Of Gemina - A Stranger To Tears: Colours Of Mind
Entry tags:annoyance-fuel, brains, idtimwytim, thoughts

To everyone talking about how the human brain is the most complex object in the Universe: Stop that. It’s not. An equivalent amount of completely random molecular combinations is far more complex. The most complex mathematically possible thing is an infinitely long string of random bits. The most complex arrangement of matter is hot gas. Raw complexity doesn’t do very much.

Belief update: I’m starting to think that the “complexity” in question might actually be [closer to] complexity-compressible-by-observer, à la Schmidhuber. In this revised version the original claim might still be an overstatement but at least it makes actual technical sense (and the new hypothesis seems to justify and uplift to precision my initial one, namely that the sentence actually translates to “brains are very impressive”).



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[info]gnidrologs
2015-05-22 04:00 (saite)
This is why talking about intelligence or mind as such from quantitative perspective is nonsense. Stop that.

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[info]mindbound
2015-05-22 04:13 (saite)
I don't believe there is any other perspective from which to talk about things to begin with. The more I learn about things like statistics and information theory, the more convinced I become that "qualitative" is nothing but the short and polite way of saying "quantitative but fuck if I know how to measure it".

What I'm saying is, using the word "complexity" to talk about how the brain is impressive falls in the "it doesn't mean what you think it means" category. Brain is impressive, all right, but it's far less complex than the same brain after a minute in a high-speed blender.

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