Nezinu vai visās filiālēs, bet vispār esmu manīnījis tur brīvi pieejamus datorus un printerus.

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nepamanīju un man ne piedāvāja to iespēju- bet ar šo postu gribu apspriest kustību uz cashless sabiedrību caur 'izdevību'.

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Inflācija kļūs lētāka, nebūs jādrukā banknotes.

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Hmmmm...kāpēc Tu nemaksā caur internetbanku? Starp citu, katrā swedbank filiālē ir dators caur kuru var to izdarīt un vēl stāv darbinieks kas palīdz to izdarīt.

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Kā jau teicu, tur tas nebija (vai es nepamanīju un man piedavāja), bet jautājums nav par to. Juatājums ir par to summu (9ls) un par to, ka mes ejam uz sabiedrību/ekonomiku bez skaidras naudas, kas manuprāt ir nelabvēlīga situacija.

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Es esmu naiva un jauna. Man likās, bezskaidrās naudas darījumi ietaupa laiku un atvieglo dzīvi. Pati banka to pasniedz ka iespēju izvairīties no rindām un liekā darba. Zinu Tavu attieksmi pret bankām, bet es laikam negribētu atpakaļ uz stāvēšanu rindā lai apmaksātu rēķinus un kasē pēc algas..

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Varētu būt gan ar skaidro naudu un arī bez, bet, Chaj, lūdzu iedomājies pasauli bez skaidras naudas (kā tagad sāk notikt Nigerijā). Izdevīgi, varbūt ... it īpaši ja tu nezini vai negribi zināt (kā 99% no cilvekiem) par monetāru politiku, un kas to kontrolē.

Te ir jautājums par kontroli: absolutā informācijas pieejamība tiem, kas jau kontrolē monetaru politiku.

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bitcoin

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is apparently the answer, but do you really think it won't be controlled or destroyed at some point down the line? It seems to me to be too much of a threat to the Central bank/private bank system to survive.

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it is decentralized and peer-to-peer by design, i.e., rather difficult to destroy w/o bringing down the entire 'net. they can easily shut down single nodes in the network. however, bitcoin does not depend on single nodes to operate. ergo, it will not be completely destroyed, but they can prevent it from becoming mainstream by going after merchants who accept it as currency, individuals who are known to have used it etc. it is technologically resilient, but for it to succeed it has to gain political legitimacy. it will be to interesting to see how it all goes down...

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They will, I think, go after it in some form at some point - imagine: not only outside the current monetary system but also difficult (impossible?) to enforce taxation as far as I understand from what I have read.

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Ir brīži, kā Tu redzi, kad neatvieglo.

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Kāpēc nelabvēlīga?
Ikdienas lietošanā bezskaidrai naudai redzu daudzas priekšrocības.

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Sveiks - es atbildēju pie Chaja.

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there's an app for that :)

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for getting used to young people? I would have to say that I could be interested in that.

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es speciāli gāju izņemt tos 20 ls par savu pasi, lai samaksātu šiem skaidrā, jo viņiem jau nekad nav kā pie cilvēkiem. vilku laukā savu naudas zīmi, bet viņi ar'paskatījās ar TO seju un teica: mēs nepieņamam skaidru naudu!

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they don't know where it's been

Bet jā: kāpēc navar to saņēmt, un tad dod tev kvītu, lai tu vari pierādītu, ka esi samaksājusi.

Protams tad bankas (PRIVATAS INSTITUCIJAS) nevarēs dabut savu 50 sant (vai vairāk) par gandrīz neko.

Bet par to seju - jā: they've got us all roundly fucked in the head.

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Swedbankas tapec ir izvietoti datori, lai laudis var pasapkalpoties internetbanka. Ka ari pasu dienesta var ar karti samaksat uzrriz.

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Aa, skatos, citi to pasu teikusi, bet vispar saprotu, jo mani kaut ka tiri intuitivi satrauc, ka nav iespejams algu sanemt skaidra. Valsts un pasvaldibas iestade un algu tikai uz kontu. Banka. Kas nav nekada labdaribas iestade, bet diezgan privati kantori, un panem pa latinam katru menesi par kartes uzturesanu, par noteikta lieluma summu apgrozisanu noteikta laika u.c. Beigas kka obidna, ka nevar apiet, bet dala algas janoliek liekeziem, lai vispar pie savas sapelnitas naudas varetu tikt.

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Tieši tā - nu vēl neaizmirsim, ka šiem privatiem kantoriem ir tiesības tikt pie musu algas, lai tie var "nodrošināt" musu otru ļimena pensiju.

Mums vajag tiesības dzivot arpus viņu sistemu. Ar savu izdevību šīs bankas ir iekartojušas kā vareni paraziti.

piedod par lat. valodu - esmu sācis dzert :)

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swedbank is, btw, rather ludicrious with its fees every now and then. i would consider moving to seb or some other, but my mortgage agreement demands my salary is put there.

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"my mortgage agreement demands my salary is put there"

Well, I suppose when we sign our name to these contracts it means we are comfortable with the immorality of what they are asking: 1: requiring you to pay interest on a loan which was created only by your promise to pay them that money over time and NOT BY ANY MONEY THAT THEY HAD TO GIVE YOU, and 2: demanding that your salary is paid into your account at their bank.

Ignorance is no excuse - which is why I bang my head here about this against the wall of this site.

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