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Latviešu valodas jautājumi

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Nov. 15., 2010 | 12:26 am
posted by: panacea in pajautaa

Sveiki! Man te uzkasījies viens korejietis, kas nodarbojas (kādā jēgā vispār?) ar latviešu valodas pētniecību. Es neesmu speciāliste valodniecības jautājumos, tādēļ gribēju vaicāt vai gudrās galvas cibiņi man varētu sniegt profesionālu palīdzību (ai mīn dažas lietas tur var jebkurš atbildēt, bet varbūt citi var labāk, kā es) :D

LŪK:

I am working on the subject-predicate agreement with the pronoun Jūs, which can refer to either a single addressee, when you show politeness due to any social context, or more than one person.

What I know is that for example, in the sentence Jūs esat augstsirdīga ‘You (one formal female addressee) are generous’, the adjective augstsirdīga is in singular but the verb esat is singular.

 

My questions are...

  1. Can you say “Generous you!” or “Smart you!” like in English ‘Poor you!’?

If yes, would you give me that in Latvian?

 

My guess: Will that be, let’s say, “Augstsirdīga Jūs!” when talking to one polite addressee, as opposed to “Augstsirdīgas Jūs!” when talking to more than one?

(I am sorry but I don’t speak Latvian so it might sound totally wrong, and I don't know the conjugations of different case for adjectives. Is singular nominative form Augstsirdīgs?)

 

2.     I read somewhere that the noun ‘Sacīkstes’ is always plural and thus its adjectives have to be always plural as in Sacīkstes bija interesantas ‘The competition was interesting’ or ‘The competitions were interesting’

Do you agree with that?

So do you think that a singular adjective in Sacīkstes bija interesanta makes the sentence sound bad?

Could you think of any other words behaving like Sacīkstes (always plural)?


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Comments {10}

from: [info]hessin
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 02:33 am
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nu daudzskaitlinieki ir diezgan daudz - bikses, brilles..

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from: [info]redz
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 06:40 am
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jāpiemin, ka arī pilsētu nosaukumi mēdz būt daudzskaitlinieki

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Nepabeigtā dienasgrāmata

from: [info]dienasgramata
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 08:13 am
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bikses bija interesantas!

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Ms. Johnson

from: [info]lidaka
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 03:55 pm
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piedodiet par rupjiibaam, bet vai tad brille nevar buut arii viena? piemeeram, poda brille

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Nepabeigtā dienasgrāmata

from: [info]dienasgramata
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 08:25 am
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"Jūs esat tik augstsirdīgs!" (You are so genereous!) with an accent on "augstsirdīgs" not on "esat"

"Ak, Jūs, nabadziņš!" (Oh, poor you!) using a noun form, useally in deminutive and ironic
"Ak, Jūs, gudrinieks!" (Oh, smart you!)

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justmy2cents

from: [info]justmy2cents
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 09:36 am
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Saka taču arī "nabaga Tu!". Vai arī tikai es tā saku? :)

Un formu ar Jūs nelieto tikai tāpēc, ka šāda uzruna ir gana familiāra, un ar Jūs ne visai saderas.

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Skabičevskis

from: [info]begemots
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 09:39 am
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1. You can say "Nabaga tu/viņš/viņa!" for "Poor you/him/her!".

English "Poor you!" could frequently in Latvian use deminutive form of "nabags" (poor man/woman): "Nabadziņš/nabadzīte!" without any pronouns both when speaking directly to addresse as well as when refering to somebody else).

The same could be said for "Smart you!", which could be translated as "Gudrinieks/gudriniece!" depending on gender.
I haven't ever heard "Smart you!" used in non-deminutive form "Gudrais tu!".

Not sure about whether there is any such form for "generous". You could theoretically say "Augstsirdīga Jūs!", except you probably should use "Augstsirdīgā Jūs!", but nobody speaks like that. Same for plural form ("augstsirdīgās jūs"). Capitalization of "jūs" in writing generally indicates 2nd person singular.


NB:
1) The forms "Nabaga tu!", "Nabadziņš!" and "Gudrinieks!" are frequently used to indicate irony, same as in English.
2) "Nabags"(noun) is more used to refer to financially poor person, although it can be used to just indicate that something is amiss with him. "Nabadziņš/nabadzīte" is almost exclusively referring to any other (non-financial) misfortune/problem.
3) Female form "nabadze" is practically never used, instead adjective is used: "Viņa ir nabaga" (She is poor [financially]).


2. Adjectives generally follow the form of noun, yes, so singular adjective makes the sentence wrong; in my perception there is a sort of a gap, where you expect the end of the sentence to finish with the same sound as the first word (in this case).

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Skabičevskis

from: [info]begemots
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 09:46 am
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stp citu, tas korejietis izklausās interesanti, varbūt vari pārforwardēt viņa adresi?

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Petrovichs

from: [info]petrovichs
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 10:55 am
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Interesanti, Ziemeļ vai Dienvidkorejietis? Ja no ziemeļiem, mok spiegs? :)
OK, muldu, ziemeļos internets ir tikai partijas vadoņiem un pietuvinātajiem.

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Lacy F

from: [info]panacea
date: Nov. 15., 2010 - 08:37 pm
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zinkā mož, tu varbūt labāk iedod savu epastu un es viņam to tālāk pārforvārdēšu, lai viņš pats izdomā, kas viņam labāk?

katrā ziņā tiešām liels par atbildēm !

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