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@ 2018-04-14 13:14:00

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Dear Agnese. Decency is not yet dead in England, though Brexit might well make you think so. I think many Brexiteers are sadly damaged people, completely out of tune with the human condition. Also think the EP press unit needs poets, if you can face it, and project your own peace. New boss Neil seems a very decent chap. Hope I shall see you again before we’re much older. Xxx Andrew


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[info]taisni_banani
2018-04-14 13:17 (saite)
es šo cilvēku uzskatu par savu EN writing skolotāju

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[info]brookings
2018-04-14 23:23 (saite)
"Completely out of tune with the human condition"
Is this a commonly held view in Brussels?

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[info]taisni_banani
2018-04-15 01:06 (saite)
Es varu runāt tikai par tiem, kas strādā EP preses dienestā un EP komiteju sekretariātos, un no tiem gandrīz visi smagi nopūšas, pieminot Brexit. Faradžu visi labi pazina, un viņa personība, retorika un darba metodes Briselē ir Breksita sinonīmi.
Dzirdēju arī, ka UK ierēdņiem sācis neveikties karjerā visās ES iestādēs, tipa, ghosting.

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[info]taisni_banani
2018-04-15 01:16 (saite)
Personiski esmu satikusi pilnīgi normālus cilvēkus, kas balsojuši "OUT", bet tos Briselē neviens nekad nav redzējis, tāpēc, protams, Briselē valdošais sentiments arī ir biased.

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[info]brookings
2018-04-16 10:04 (saite)
I once told a friend and a colleague who are working as translators at the EP that if I had had a vote, I would have probably have voted 'leave'. They were so stunned, they couldn't speak for a minute.

I am a 'service provider' for an EU institution. When I was over there (Brussels) last time, they told me that they had got rid of the other Brit contractors in order to 'get ready for Brexit'. I'm okay, apparently, as I am based in LV. Still, I will do everything I can to keep my opinions to myself when I am over next week (just need to lay off the Belgian beer) - who would want to do business with someone 'out of tune with the human condition' :)

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[info]taisni_banani
2018-04-18 00:27 (saite)
Woa OK. My mind is shifting a we speak.
I guess I've been too involved with the whole drama to concede a variety of shades within the human condition. Having had to deal with Nigel F and British tabloid requests on daily basis in the run-up... sense of doom & tragedy, tears I saw in my colleagues' eyes when I was called in early morning in the B-day.
There is just one truth inside the bubble. Voices of reasonable Brexiters somehow didn't make it to our ears at all. This is the case with most major political issues, and we sincerely believe there that those largely shared beliefs (mostly along the lines of S&D/Greens) are merely the common sense in conditions where simply more background information is available.

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[info]brookings
2018-04-18 10:34 (saite)
Don't take it personally because what I am going to describe is, I think, fairly universal (it certainly applies to me too). I am just wondering about your last sentence:

("This is the case with most major political issues, and we sincerely believe there that those largely shared beliefs (mostly along the lines of S&D/Greens) are merely the common sense in conditions where simply more background information is available.").

To what extent does this consensus on the position of social democrats and greens reflect your common work positions? I mean you are all public servants (so reliant on the state for salary and possibly sceptical of private enterprise), you work in a supranational institution (you wouldn't want to see it threatened, and therefore are averse to nationalist movements), you have colleagues from all over Europe - and probably beyond (so you are loyal to the multicultural idea). What's more, I would posit that you enjoy order and control and are conscientious (and are therefore prone to view the world in a technocratic manner, and become annoyed with the populous who vote for populists and make your lives more difficult:)).

I could go on - and again - my apologies if you are offended. I'm really just trying to understand what is going on, and as, I say I am no better in this regard - I tend to conflate with what is best for me with what should be best for everyone :)

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[info]taisni_banani
2018-04-18 20:10 (saite)
you misunderstood. there is no consensus on positions of S&D & Greens. I'm sharing deeply personal and actually even unlawful observations, man. Gained in close working relationships, many beers and lunches and dinners together. With highly educated and deeply intelligent people from all over the EU; sceptical lefties, hard-rock and football fans in their hearts, as most of us are ex-journalists. The common work position is a-political, as long as it's possible, as we are being paid to work in the interests of our employer. just like any full time employed person is.
And there is not so much exitement about the technocrats btw. The rise of technocrat gvts in the EU was seen as the necessary evil in the aftermath of financial crisis. S&D & Green positions are quite critical of bureaucracy. It's the EPP who are the technocrats and I can say, our hearts are not with them. I had one colleague who was more believer in this approach and others were smiling a bit behind his back.

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