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@ 2021-04-22 18:13:00

Lasu lietotāja brooking ierakstus un nevaru saprast, kur ir mana problēma:
a) esmu nepārāk inteliģents, līdz ar to neprotu savilkt kopā A un B, kas citiem šķiet acīmredzami
b) nespēju noticēt, ka ir tik ļoti plaša cilvēku grupa (dažādu valstu valdības, zinātnieki, plašsaziņas līdzekļu darbinieki), kura ir spējusi vienoties par šādu visaptverošu adžendu, tai pat laikā nespējot vienoties par tādām neatliekamām lietām kā klimata pārmaiņas un tmldz.
c) or i, for one, would welcome our supranational overlords.

UPD. Ir protams arī iespēja d), proti, es esmu spējis samierināties ar savu nenozīmību.

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lasitajs
2021-05-08 12:35 (saite)

It took some time, sorry for that.

Regarding this point you make:

others will say the chance of you having a bad response are 0.000001% or something like that.

It is not 0.000001%, but the deaths you cite, together are 0.0018% of vaccinated in UK (51 million, per OurWorldinData). It is still a very small percentage, don't you think?

I couldn't find the precise data on side-effects on MHRA site, they're burried somewhere deep. Most of them probably include sore arm, that's why i focused on the death numbers you mentioned.

Your points about journalism are fair. There is a certain degradation of the craft, i grant you that, for various reasons. But are they in in some kind of conspiracy? Very hard to imagine, knowing some of the personally. Or is the conspiracy a straw-man from my side, and the accusation is simply for being lazy and taking the main government narrative without any kind of criticism?

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brookings
2021-05-11 11:05 (saite)

Hi, I just looked up the vaccination rate in the UK on Our World in Data and got 52% of the UK population have had at least one shot - 52% of 68,000,000 is about 35 million. But okay, I get your point. I have two things to say in response:

First, what is the chance of a young person dying from Covid? It is also tiny. So much so, that you can't see any increase in all-cause mortality in younger age groups - even in Latvia, which has just experienced a wave of the virus.

Secondly, we don't know about further deaths to be caused by the virus. Actually ADE (Antibody Dependant Enhancement) is a known unknown - it is listed as a possible serious reaction that could be made manifest when the vaccinated person comes into contact with a mutated - or wild - strain of the virus.

About the side-effects of the vaccines on the MHRA site, you can see them all here (for Astra Zeneca): https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/983475/COVID-19_vaccine_AstraZeneca_analysis_print.pdf

Thanks for agreeing with me about the journalism. I say thanks, because sometimes it seems we (general 'we'- not us two) don't have conversations anymore - especially on social media. It's more about venting frustration and getting one over others (guilty your honour). I think they (journalists such as the one I mentioned writing for Ir.lv) are - in general and on this issue - unwitting dupes of a conspiracy, and it is down to status and slinkums (check out the response from an academic to my 'investigation' of high Ct-value PCR tests - 'ai slinkums'). They fail, in my eyes, to objectively address the issues for an intelligent but curious (and possibly sceptical) audience, instead relying on parroting an orthodox view unchallenged by curiosity. It is especially damaging to the trust between readership and media when they have a knee-jerk aversion to examining corporate capture of institutions and high-level corruption in general.

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	brookings 2021-05-11 11:06 (saite)
	should read "Secondly, we don't know about further deaths to be caused by the vaccines." (Atbildēt uz šo) (Iepriekšējais)

	brookings 2021-05-12 15:35 (saite)
	calculate your risk: https://www.qcovid.org/ Mine is 0.007% I can live with that. (Atbildēt uz šo) (Iepriekšējais) (Diskusija)

lasitajs
2021-05-14 20:17 (saite)

Mine is 0.0044%.

I have to say that i see your overall point. The only argument i can provide in return is that old and frail *potentially* could stay in some kind of isolation for indefinite amount of time, if population in general isn't immunized.

How you read anything about how Russia handles it? Because there are practically no Covid limitations currently in force, it seems. Friend of mine, theater director, came back from Moscow couple of weeks ago, he said everything is open: cinemas, theaters, sporting events. It's almost as Covid didn't exist.

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	lasitajs 2021-05-14 20:17 (saite)
	How = Have (Atbildēt uz šo) (Iepriekšējais)

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