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Roll up! Roll up! Skaidru naudu neņemam [Jun. 29th, 2015|04:39 pm]
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Payment for the big Greek Tragedy now going cashless - enjoy the show.
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From:[info]kautskis
Date:June 29th, 2015 - 04:21 pm
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Bitcoin to the rescue?
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 29th, 2015 - 04:27 pm
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Who knows? (kaut arii I doubt it..)
I do think that pushing the cashless economy was the idea all along - we'll see how far it goes.
From:[info]tiesibsargs
Date:June 29th, 2015 - 05:55 pm
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fuck the cash! i strongly dislike physical money. it represents evil.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 29th, 2015 - 06:40 pm
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Does electronic money represent virtual evil?
From:[info]tiesibsargs
Date:June 29th, 2015 - 07:10 pm
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i guess it does.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 29th, 2015 - 07:18 pm
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virtual evil conjured from nothing (at a cost to us) that ensures the recording of every transaction - some kind of brave new world is bound to follow
From:[info]tiesibsargs
Date:June 30th, 2015 - 02:18 pm
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mate, you are exaggerating.

yes, money and banks are basically evil and most probably we could live without them.

but the digital money is de facto more convenient. cash is traditionally used by maffia and other inhumane institutions.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 30th, 2015 - 02:33 pm
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Nothing wrong with money.
If banks lent money they actually had, that would also be okay.
Digital money would be okay if not introduced as debt, secure, and we had some privacy (otherwise you have total state control).
Cash gives you some independence: that's why there is so little of it.
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From:[info]starro
Date:June 29th, 2015 - 05:51 pm
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Žēl ka tur malka īsti neaug..
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 29th, 2015 - 06:38 pm
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:)
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From:[info]kautskis
Date:June 30th, 2015 - 09:13 am
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Starp citu, no kurienes tas pieņēmums par Grieķiju kā ļoti cashless? Tā ir? Man šķiet, ka tur visi tagad ķeksē laukā eiro no saviem matračiem un maksā skaidrā.

Bet vispār varbūt cashless nav tik traki. If push comes to shove, virtuālu drahmu tak ieviest ir vieglāk par papīra drahmu.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 30th, 2015 - 09:38 am
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With capital controls it is de facto going in that direction (how far, as I say, I don't know) - as for cashless, I'm okay with it as long as there is a form of it that isn't controlled by (the issuance of it controlled by) the banking class and/or it doesn't enter the economy as debt. You also, I am sure, need a currency off the tax/state radar, too - mainly to ensure people can survive in regulated system which doesn't work.