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Wed, May. 26th, 2021, 11:18 pm
Dilemma : slavery or euthanasia
In the future it will be a question of finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old, because as soon as it exceeds 60-65 years man lives longer than he produces and costs society dearly, then the weak and then the useless who do nothing for society because there will be more and more of them, and especially the stupid ones. Euthanasia targeting these groups; euthanasia will have to be an essential instrument of our future societies, in all cases. We cannot of course execute people or set up camps. We will get rid of them by making them believe it is for their own good. Too large a population, and for the most part unnecessary, is something economically too expensive. Socially, it is also much better for the human machine to come to an abrupt halt rather than gradually deteriorating. We won’t be able to run intelligence tests on millions and millions of people, you can imagine! We will find something or cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the fat, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated. We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will thus be done on its own: they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own. -esence no 'L'Avenir de la vie*' - Jacques Attali, international banker and unapologetic eugenicist https://www.amazon.fr/LAvenir-vie-Salomon/dp/222150237Xhttps://youtu.be/UdWD1A3mumchttps://youtu.be/WuMVZKJWtP8"Je ne crois pas à l’orwellisme, parce que c’est une forme de totalitarisme technique avec un « Big Brother » visible et centralisé. Je crois plutôt à un totalitarisme implicite avec un « Big Brother » invisible** et décentralisé. En d’autres termes, avec le génie génétique on pourrait peu à peu créer les conditions d’une humanité s’assumant elle-même librement, mais collectivement, ou alors créer les conditions d’une marchandise nouvelle, génétique cette fois-ci, qui serait faite de copies d’hommes vendues aux hommes, de chimères ou d’hybrides utilisés comme des esclaves, des robots, des moyens de travail… L’euthanasie sera un des instruments essentiels de nos sociétés futures dans tous les cas de figures. Dans une logique socialiste, pour commencer, le problème se pose comme suit: la logique socialiste c’est la liberté et la liberté fondamentale, c’est le suicide; en conséquence, le droit au suicide direct ou indirect est donc une valeur absolue dans ce type de société. ..it will be possible to buy children in the same way as one buys “peanuts” or a television set. There is a second important and related reason for this new family order. If from an economic point of view, children are a commodity like any other, society also considers them as such, but for social reasons. " _____ *Pour info et en réponse à ceux qui s'interrogent, il y a eu une seconde édition du livre de Michel Salomon, expurgée des éléments les plus dérangeants. Les propos cités dans ce post et attribués au bienfaiteur de l'humanité Attali, ne figurent plus dans la nouvelle édition du livre, devenu d'ailleurs bizarrement "introuvable". ** https://youtu.be/XaMN3ebujlU?t=3293Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 10:53 am
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I agree with you 100% about the loss of empathy and emotional intelligence on display when we communicate online - it is why I am not on FB, Twitter etc. Ciba, nu tas it mans vajums :) But, but, this is where we are. From what I see, there will be very little support from the vaccinated for the rights of the unvaccinated. Most vaccinated people will be passive. They won't be sounding off on delfi; and in the real world, in which we ignore the regulations as much as possible, they won't police the restrictions. However, in any part of life that is regulated the unvaccinated will be discriminated against. It will become, simply, the new normal, and most of the vaccinated will accept their freedom from these restrictions as a little privilege that they have earned. I expect the restrictions to become ever tighter, by the way. Step-by-step as it were. Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 11:42 am
dzeltens
Es esmu sākusi apsvērt domu notīties no sociālajiem tīkliem pēdējā laikā pēc šausmīgi bezjēdzīga publiska kašķa ar bijušo darba devēju, kuru es vienmēr esmu ļoti cienījusi kā profesionāli, bet kā cilvēks viņš acīmredzot ir pa šo pandēmijas gadu sagājis sviestā. Tieši tādā ziņā, ka vairs nesaprot, ka saviem draugiem (es vismaz tā uzskatīju) nevajag publiski uzbrukt un vēl uzrīdīt sociālo tīklu šakāļus, pat ja jūsu uzskati kaut kādās jomās nesakrīt. Man tas bija vairāku bezmiega nakšu pārdomu objekts, kā tik jauks cilvēks var riet vienā korī ar cilvēkiem, kas reālajā dzīvē ir korumpēti mēsli, tikai tāpēc, ka kaut kādā pseido svarīgā "kultūrkara" vai "geju tiesību" jautājumā viņi ir vienā nometnē. Ok, šis ir offtopic, es jau jūtos pateikusi par daudz, bet jā - this ir where we are. "From what I see, there will be very little support from the vaccinated for the rights of the unvaccinated. Most vaccinated people will be passive." Par šo jā, nevakcinētajiem pašiem nāksies cīnīties par savu pārliecību. Es vakar biju garā pastaigā izvēdināt bērnus un suņus ar pārliecinātāko antivakseri, ko pazīstu. Viņa uzskata, ka tas, ka viņa ar vīru netiek uz hokeja čempionātu, jau ir diskriminācija. Daudzi vakcinētie viņiem droši vien nepiekristu, jo "hokeja čempis jau nav cilvēktiesības, skaties pa TV". Es to līniju vilktu tajā vietā, kur nevakcinētiem neļauj strādāt, un ticu, ka daudzi vakcinētie man pievienotos. Es pati gan laikam vakcinētos, ja no tā būtu atkarīga mana spēja pabarot bērnu un samaksāt kredītu. Neesmu tik pārliecināta par savu taisnību, lai ietu zem viena karoga ar Gobzemu, Pļaviņu un Vasiļevski. Man tieši viņu atbalstītāju eksistence vispār lika jebko iekomentēt zem šī ieraksta par idiotu atlasi :) Cibas antivakseri vismaz liek pašu atrastus linkus, līdz ar ko pretenzijām uz nebūšanu aitām vismaz ir kaut kāds pamats. "I expect the restrictions to become ever tighter, by the way. Step-by-step as it were." Kas Tev liek tā domāt? Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 01:53 pm
brookings
So you think that it is discrimination for you not to be allowed to work, but you are still going to get vaccinated .... because you need to work? In this case, I personally would not give a flying ferret who I would be standing with. It is my now firmly-held conviction that the so-called intelligent ones don't know jack shit about what is happening. I know that because I have had many discussions with them, and they all - all of them bar one - disappear when faced with logical, coherent questions that undermine their rather desperately smug ideological convictions. Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 02:37 pm
dzeltens
"So you think that it is discrimination for you not to be allowed to work, but you are still going to get vaccinated .... because you need to work?" Yes, that is basically how shallow and desperate I am/we all are. And by we I mean working class intelligents. Nobody can really afford to rebel against the government already; it is just too expensive, as simple as that. And of course we dont know shit about what is happening."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts" This works so very well in the age of uncertainty, in this covid situation, almost as if it was predesigned on purpose, to prevent sensible people from action. It is very hard to fight the enemy when blindfolded, when you do not really see how and who you should be fighting. And if there really is a global conspiracy, I don't see how do we actually fight them. By posting on Facebook? Or marching together with Zaļais Valentīns in protests at Brīvības Piemineklis, as if that would change shit. Pat ja visus tos latviešu antivakserus nesponsorētu Kremlis (mana personīgā pārliecība gan ir, ka sponsorē, tāpat kā man personīgi simpātisko offguardian). Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 02:53 pm
brookings
Then you better get ready to hang out with the hippies in the woods :) Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 03:45 pm
dzeltens
See you there :) Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 09:57 pm
gnidrologs
Izskatās daudzi tic manufaktūrētajām mēmam, kas Kremlis sponsorē jebkuru opozīciju Rietumu varturiem. Nepatīk migrācija no mežoņu zemēm - Kremlis. Ievēl Trampu - Kremlis. Uzstājas pret vārda brīvības apturēšanu "naida runas" apkarošanai - Kremlis. Man tagad jāsāk domāt, ka Kremlī īstenībā tusē labie zēni. Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 02:23 pm
brookings
About the ever-tighter nature of the restrictions, I think it will be in order to force people to get vaccinated - as you yourself note, if you can't feed the children or pay the mortgage, then what are you going to do. It will be step-by-step as that is the pace that is needed to have people adapt to the ever-more new normal state of affairs. Fri, May. 28th, 2021, 03:23 pm
formica: par netikshanu uz masu burzinjiem:
Uz to var paskatiities no realitaatee baazeetas logjikas puses - viirusu princis F ir deklareejis, ka ""If the vaccine also allows you to prevent initial infection that would be great," he said. "But what I would settle for, and all my colleagues would settle for, is the primary endpoint, which is to prevent clinically recognizable disease. That's what we hope happens." Taatad vakcineetie viens otru un paareejos var aplaist daudz efektiivaak (motocikla kjiveres efekts). No treshaas puses - kad burkaani un citi bonusi izsiiks, varturi laidiis darbaa paatagu un tad gan notiks kaartiigs atbirums un nelikviidi noliks karotes. No ceturtaas puses - onkulim Bilam jau sen ir padomaa veezha vakciina, uz kaa epideemiju tiks brugjeets celjsh, menjgjeejoties ar messendzera vakciinaam. https://www.mskcc.org/news/sloan-kettering-institute-researchers-look-beyond-dna-identify-cancer-drivershttps://youtu.be/AHB2bLILAvM |