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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:05 pm
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I know OF people

NOT

I Know people

In reaction to Martcore knowing OF a reporter who lost a lung, not knowing someone.
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From:[info]martcore
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:07 pm
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seriously? brookings, seriously??
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:09 pm
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YES!!!!

'know of' is different. Did you personally know this reporter? That's why I wrote 'know of'. If I wanted to say I knew an acquaintance, I would write I know someone who - or I personally know someone who. Like I did in Point 8.
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From:[info]mranarhs
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:27 pm
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Yes, sorry, my bad - and I did ask to clarify. So now it is clear, brookings has no personal acquaintances who have died of covid vaccine. Good to know.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:33 pm
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Yes, your bad. I never claimed I did know anyone personally.
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From:[info]mranarhs
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 01:02 pm
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Yes, I am not native English speaker. And I do ask questions to get things clarified. I think it works just fine. What I would expect from you is that you ask persons who tell you that somebody died from covid vaccine in Latvia that they clarify how they know it, how come that death is not in the official statistics, etc. Getting things clarified by asking questions is a fantastic tool, we should all use it more.
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From:[info]martcore
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:36 pm
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god, bļ, bless
viņš arī prot nobiedēt cilvēkus
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From:[info]martcore
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:41 pm
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it is quite unconvincing, when you are not burning corpses on the streets, doesn't it?
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:45 pm
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Yes, you can say the same thing about Covid deaths.
But I note that there is a serious discrepancy regarding the level of scepticism employed when stating who died/fell ill with a vaccine and who died/fell ill with Covid.
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From:[info]mranarhs
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:20 pm
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He mentioned a particular, identifiable case. You did not.

Now let me introduce to a list of people whom I know personally, who have taken the vaccine and are just fine.

my wife
my mom and dad
my brother and his son
3 cousins (probably more, but to these ones I have talked)
1 cousin's husband
several colleagues (I am too lazy to count them)
next door neighbour

There are surely more, but I accounted here only those which I remembered immediately and was 100% sure that they have taken the jab. The group consists of people of very different ages, from just above 18 to over 70.

And I do not know anybody personally who would have any serious side effects, what to speak of death. Some reported absolutely nothing to note besides a bit of pain in the arm for about a day.

Now it would be nice to hear accounts of people you know. No exaggerations please, and only clear, confirmed reports. Thanks!
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:27 pm
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Hmm - I know personally about 50 people. Not really a great sample size, is it?

One particular case is the BBC journalist. Did I not give you a link? I can do so again should you require it.

If that is not enough, please visit the MHRA web page for info on adverse reactions and fatalities. Do you need a link to that, sir?
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From:[info]mranarhs
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:31 pm
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I had read about that journalist before. Guess what - journalists do indeed die. And if 1 out of 100 000 has a risk of dying after taking the vaccine, that 1 might as well be a journalist.

I do not know many people personally, at least to extent of being in contact with them on a regular basis. So sample size is what it is. However, my sample confirms the official statistics and risk assessment. Good enough for me.

How about you?
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:39 pm
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Sample size of 10? Whatever winds your clock.
We, of course, don't know about long-term effects. I will help with that by volunteering to be in the control group.
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From:[info]mranarhs
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:55 pm
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I knew you would throw in something new when your previous claims (vaccine kills) turn out impossible to prove. Long-term effects can and should be studied and risk accordingly assessed and managed - by doctors. Which is already being done. If you want to go on living in fear of all possible risks, good luck, I personally don't think that is any good strategy. In a long-term analysis we will all be dead anyway.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 01:40 pm
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MHRA website in the UK
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From:[info]mranarhs
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:46 pm
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By the way, I will get my jab next week. Let's see how I get recorded in the statistics, both official, personal, quasi-personal, or ciba-ish.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:June 9th, 2021 - 12:47 pm
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Enjoy your freedom: scan your QR code with happiness.