bet ne jau visi mēs aizbraucam un strādājam par mazākām algām kā vietējie. un, patiesībā, tie cilvēki, kurus es te pazīstu, kuri ir iebraucēji - viņi arī ne.

so, I don't really see the point in the question. I think it's just an assumption. or I am living in a dream again.

though only thing is - we are happy to work. to actually have a job. maybe not the best one in the world, but at least a job.

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Paldies par atbildi: I guess you fall into a slightly different category - someone who has (as far as I understand) gone to study. My question is more related to economic migration in the context of the current pizģec occuring currently in your dzimtenē.

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my migration itself had nothing to do with economy or studies. i did study, but didn't graduate.
I'm just saying that I don't really know anybody, who would work for less then any English person in the same position. But then again, I can't really recall that I would know anybody who would have come here because of pizģets. Though I know a lot of people that stay here because of that.

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jautājums ir baigi vietā. uzdot vajadzēja mums to sākt jau pie pirmajiem ekon. imigr. viļņiem. sen, pirms padsmit gadiem. tagad - arī, vienalga.
a point, a point. un dānim ir taisnība par infantile taking everything for granted and the cocky sense of entitlement.
but of course, I'm far from "jauns jaunietis", ...thank god.

Man teorētiski nav te jāpaliek, bet es patlaban palieku -- kamēr kaut ko varu darīt. Ja šeit vairs nebūs nekā, ko darīt, tad domāšu par prombraukšanu.

Savukārt, kas attiecas uz problēmām ar arodbiedrībniekiem -- vai tad nav tā, ka viņu welfare state arī plīst šuvēs pušu jebkurā gadījumā? Vai tad 2-4 miljoni baltiešu viņiem atņem darbu, jeb tomēr tas miljards ķīniešu un indiešu?

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Man liekas, ka jautājums nav par darbu vietām tieši: vairāk uz the weakening of a bargaining position attiecībā uz collective bargaining agreements (see Laval dispute Zviedrijā).

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Nu jā, bet weaker collective bargaining position ir objektīva situācija konkrētajā brīdī, ne -- mazāk darbavietu, ir iespējas darbu offshorot? Un atkal pa lielam jau nebūt ne Lavāla un baltiešu dēļ.

Un vai tad konkrētajā Laval gadījumā latviešu būvnieki tika pie kaut kā vairāk nekā tik vien tā, ko solīja ES? ES tiesa taču beigās atzina, ka Laval gadījumā zviedriem nebija taisnība -- tiesa gan, Laval pa to laiku laikam jau paspēja nobankrotēt.

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rakstiishu angliski - noguris esmu - it's interesting about offshoring in a country with a strong union presence. I'm not sure if it would be quite so easy for a Swedish firm to employ its firms via an offshoot based in another country - worth researching if I ever get the time.

As far as what the ES court decided, well it doesn't alter the fact that it is still an erosion of what those Swedish trade unions have been fighting for (and which as a former manual worker myself, I fully approve of - we are not all childless wanna be graphic designers (labi, es zinu, ka tas ir mazliet iedomiigi, bet ka jau teicu - esmu noguris;)). My main point, or rather question, is that if our strategy to living in a failing state (and at which point it becomes a failure is largely personal) is to just leave, then we are (nu labi -es apgalvoju, ka tas bija jautājums: tā tad 'then are we..." exporting the consequences of our collective apathy to states where labour attempts to cut a better deal for itself?

As it is, the way I see it, Latvia nowadays is comparable to an out of the way pašvaldība: legislation largely dictated by EU directives, economic policy largely dictated by the IMF. I can expand on this - but ne tagad: laiks gulēt.

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es palieku.
nu, ar vienu kāju ārpusē, though, un var gadīties, ka ārpuses kājas proporcija kļūs lielāka, bet tas nav tas, ko es gribu. es gribu tepat.

Kaut kad ne paaraak sen viens cibinjsh teica, ka uz ielas esot redzeejis sievieti ar plakaatu "Paliidziet man tikt prom no Latvijas vai arii es izdariishu pashnaaviibu". Nezinu, vai taa ir taisniiba, bet man liekas, ka taas labi ilustree - daudzi, kas tagad aizbrauc (jo pastaav, kaa tu saki, shii it kaa vieglaa iespeeja aizbraukt) un taadaa veidaa tiek galaa ar bezizeju, bez shiis iespeejas vnk iegrimtu depresijaa un izdariitu pashnaaviibu.

Var jau buut, ka, ja taadu cilveeku koncentraacija arvien palielinaatos, izveidotos kaut kas revolucionaars utt., kaa rezultaataa mees patieshaam kaut ko izmainiitu savaa valstii (kas, piekriitu, buutu daudz cildenaak nekaa laisties lapaas uz citu valsti, kas savu sisteemu ir izveidojusi stabilaaku ne bez upuriem utt.) Bet nez.

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Es arī par to revolucionāru garu domāju. Atbilžu, protams, man nav - tikai varu prātot.

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