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patīk šis džeks (MP par mūsu jauno distopiju: kaut kas viņam ir iekšā).

Savukārt, es domāju, par to, kas notiks tālāk. Cik ilgi mēs turpināsim? Patlaban, es (ne-eksperts) uzskatu, ka, lai sasniegtu 'herd immunity', mums vajag, lai 50-70% no iedzīvotājiem saskartos ar šo vīrusu. Orientējoties pēc oficiāliem datiem - cik ilgi ir jāgaida šādā gaitā? Teiksim, mums būs 200 jauni pacienti nedēļā, tad tas nozīmē 9,600 gadā? Būsim okay pēc 104 gadiem (1,000,000/9600)? Tas ir joks, ja kas, bet, tomēr...

Ok, man liekas, ka īstenībā, krietni vairāk cilvēkiem jau ir/bija šis vīruss (spriežot pēc Islandes pieredzes). Ja man ir taisnība, tad tas varētu nozīmēt divas lietas:

1) Covid-19 nav cik bīstams, kā mēs domājam - kas ir labi. Situācija Islandē varētu mainīties, bet patlaban mirstība ir 3 - 4 cilv. no 1319 saslimušajiem (0.2-0.3%). Ja pat vairākiem cilvēkiem ir/bija šis vīruss, tad šis procents būs pat mazāks. Protams, es saprotu, ka bez 'lockdown' būtu augstāks procents mirušo, jo slodze uz slimnicām parsniegtu viņu spējas arstēt pacientus.

2) Mums nebūs tik ilgi jāgaida, lai sasniegtu to 'herd immunity' (nevis, ha ha 104 gadus).

Kas mums ir jādara: jāgaida majās, jāgaida nabadzību, jāgaida bankrotu un jāgaida, beidzot musu jauno cashless totalitārās uzraudzības (supranational) valsti? Un jāgaida to ar puķēm, sapratni un patiecību arī?


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From:[info]formica
Date:April 3rd, 2020 - 12:15 pm
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From:[info]iokaste
Date:April 3rd, 2020 - 12:40 pm
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jāgaida tumšie viduslaiki
From:[info]mmd
Date:April 3rd, 2020 - 02:17 pm
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Jāmeklē darbs, ienākumi, pārtika, nevis jādusmojas, ka nav tā, kā bija agrāk.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:April 3rd, 2020 - 02:49 pm
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paldies, saulit!
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From:[info]brookings
Date:April 3rd, 2020 - 04:25 pm

Notes on a hysteria

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"Šī paciente (99 gadus veca sieviete) ir mirusi nevis no koronavīrusa infekcijas, bet ar Covid-19," apgalvoja Višņakovs. - Delfi.lv
Tomēr te: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
izskatas, ka mums oficiāli beidzot ir nāve no... Covid-19.
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From:[info]chaj
Date:April 3rd, 2020 - 05:59 pm
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"Un jāgaida to ar puķēm, sapratni un patiecību arī?"

Jā. Var bez puķēm.
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From:[info]gnidrologs
Date:April 3rd, 2020 - 11:08 pm
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UK is certainly using 1983 as manual on how to govern. It was joke yesterday, but not anymore. Not that it's any different elsewhere in progressive Western countries, but UK seemed to always have its specific way towards anarchotyranny. Remember the 5th of November.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:April 4th, 2020 - 10:24 am
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When I read the news about the new UK Police State, I feel like Pippin looking through Saruman’s ball.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:April 4th, 2020 - 11:10 pm
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Tomēr (note to self), herd immunity could be bullshit:
"His reasoning resembles his hair. We are facing pure madness. First, herd immunity is a brilliant invention and fantasy created by the pharmaceutical industry. Only an imbecile can believe that there exists such a monstrosity as herd immunity, which simply doesn’t exist.

If you wish, we can make another show where I’ll explain why (herd immunity) is a scam. But even if it existed, how does herd immunity exist for a disease that does not give you immunity? It is as if you were saying that herd immunity exists for colds. We’re really in front of a character (Boris Johnson) who speaks because he has a tongue. He is dangerous and should be stopped."

The whole interview is great: https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/04/04/the-coronavirus-and-galileo-an-interview-with-a-italian-nano-pathologist-dr-stefano-montanari/