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[Feb. 9th, 2016|01:59 pm]
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From:[info]rasbainieks
Date:February 10th, 2016 - 07:26 pm
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monsieur, did you watch the video?
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From:[info]porkus
Date:February 10th, 2016 - 08:21 pm
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Should I do it??
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From:[info]rasbainieks
Date:February 10th, 2016 - 08:24 pm
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as you wish. however, if you're into discussing its content with me, watching it first would be appreciated. at least you'd know where the quote came from.
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From:[info]porkus
Date:February 10th, 2016 - 09:20 pm
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ok
Assuming that I didn't watch the video is a really nice of you.
I was more curious were you stand on this. There were no comments on the quotation and every commentator including you seemed fine with it. Also, there was nothing except intro text about the rest. Now if I would prefer to discuss this with the young lady, you were advertising - well - I'd do that via different channel. According to her, she doesn't ignore even "negative comments." But I highly doubt she is participating in klab.lv environment, isn’t she?
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From:[info]rasbainieks
Date:February 11th, 2016 - 02:54 pm
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as i said, i personally would say asshole. exactly because we all have one, and we all shouldn't be one.
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From:[info]porkus
Date:February 11th, 2016 - 06:04 pm
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yes you said ‘asshole’ alright
I’m not sure how well you now the language, but context-wise “prick” & “dick,” your favorite “asshole,” essential British choad “wanker,” shithead or even “pussy” all are derogatory names used for one particular gender. Add to this “kā arī iespēja no asprātīgas un mazliet kautrīgas dāmas nesāpīgi uzzināt, kas ir feminisms” and you’ve already established what kind of advocacy this is all about.
The same goes about free speech. Sure you can mix/play (with) it with ‘freedom of hate speech’ but it shows how someone understands the concept of one fundamental human right. I’ll skip going deeper into how it (legally) differs from … (it’s gonna take too long + I’m not sure about getting another “you’ve lost me”)

in shorty-short: Should hate speech be discouraged? Sure. And it’s always much easier to defend someone’s right to say something with which you agree or /and share the same point of view. But, you also have a duty (if we are talking about free society) to defend speech to which you may strongly object.
… … …

+ Scots are tough people. Well, maybe not all of them.

regarding “to answer for a quote by someone else is a bit too much” in particular and the whole thing as it is:

Normally, quotations should support someone's point, evidence, or giving examples or illustrating etc .
Normally, it should not repeat information or disagree with your point.
Normally.
And there was no any other explanation where you stand on this particular video/matter/case.
So I made an assumption that you share the same point of view.
To be sure, I needed a clarification.
I got it from you.
Hence merci.

finishing this (yea - you can safely call it a rant) :

there is a bright side in this conversation - it is highly unlikely that I’ll make another attempt
to clarify your position on your own posts
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From:[info]rasbainieks
Date:February 12th, 2016 - 04:25 pm
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ok, now i realize you're not talking about the use of words for male or female genitalia as swearwords and the choices we make of those, which is a subject i'd find quite interesting. instead you're concentrating on any derogatory terms aimed at males. is that relevant here? i disagree asshole is only used for males. the thing is, swearwords are aimed at both sexes, and they revolve around two functions – the sexual and the excretory. i'd say the sexual swearwords are gender specific, while the excretory ones are gender neutral and thus preferable. it's a broad generalization, of course, but should give you an idea of my attitude. if you ever wanted one, of course.

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