Marts 31., 2022


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Or maybe “un-becoming-human.” We may have to put a further qualification in there. You see, because whatever this is, it is not even a prototype. Don’t take this book as a model for how to be. No, no. It’s not a blueprint. It’s just a pair of twisted, intelligent people, playing with toys—and their salads—And their salads, and various other life forms. So in a certain way, this isn’t a map. This project isn’t a map.
It’s more like a bit of territory in which we’ve… Squatted. About this much, about two square inches of it, that we’re squatting. Squat the hyperobject. That’s the new t-shirt that everybody has to wear. That t-shirt needs to be made. Is this the Introduction? Because if it is, I’m just noticing that we’re doing it. It’s not unpleasant. It’s true. Something’s happening.

/Timothy Morton, Dominic Boyer. hyposubjects: on becoming human/

Lasīju, ķiķināju, domāju, bļe, žēl, ka šito te latviski nesagaidīsim, jo nav tak tādu psihopātu, kas gribētu šito izdot (nu kaut vai fragmentiņu?) un tad visa tāda PAGA PAGA :)

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From:[info]honeybee
Date:31. Marts 2022 - 16:11
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Think about it. When you bite a banana you obtain a banana bite. When you lick a banana you get a banana lick. When you think about a banana you get a banana thought. When you draw the banana you get a banana drawing. When the banana becomes sentient and goes on Oprah and starts to talk—“I found myself in a paragraph about bananas by the authors of Hyposubjects...it was a traumatic self-awakening…”—all you have is banana interview. Even the banana themselves can’t fully access the banana banana. And since licking is just as good or just as bad as thinking at accessing the banana banana, snails and hurricanes are just as good or as bad as humans and there’s nothing special about humans at all.
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From:[info]mindbound
Date:31. Marts 2022 - 16:17
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"Autoriem vairs nelejiet" :D
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From:[info]honeybee
Date:31. Marts 2022 - 16:20
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Weirdly enough, es tiešām ticu, ka viņi varētu būt bijuši quite skaidrā visu laiku

Nu vai arī kaut kas tur nav ar tiem salātiem

It’s the salad in your mind. And so you are thinking in salad mode, or you’re thinking in salad color—you’re thinking saladly. Of course you can hope saladly, you can promise saladly and hate saladly.
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From:[info]honeybee
Date:31. Marts 2022 - 16:23
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es gan balsotu par sēnēm, ja vispār
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From:[info]mindbound
Date:31. Marts 2022 - 16:23
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TBH jā, tur ir paliels WTF psihodēlijas moments, vismaz man, ē, neiniciētajam
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From:[info]honeybee
Date:31. Marts 2022 - 16:59
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Nu vot, un inicietajam tas nevis vnk meiko sensu, bet liekas "bāc, tas banāna piemērs reāli labi izskaidro, kā darbojas estētiskā sfēra!"
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From:[info]mindbound
Date:31. Marts 2022 - 17:00
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> kā darbojas estētiskā sfēra

Salātīgi, es pieņemu?
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From:[info]honeybee
Date:31. Marts 2022 - 17:01
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:D prātīgi, actually

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From:[info]koriandrejs
Date:1. Aprīlis 2022 - 09:06
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ballads of sadness
salads of badness
/m. l./
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From:[info]honeybee
Date:1. Aprīlis 2022 - 09:14
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Es, protams, izlasīju "salads of baldness"
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From:[info]koriandrejs
Date:1. Aprīlis 2022 - 10:24
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1) Šajā atbildē vislabāk man patīk tas, ka PROTAMS :D
2) Ar šādu domu uzreiz nododu savu neslēpto antropocentrismu, bet es nepiekrītu tēzei "licking is just as good or just as bad as thinking at accessing the banana banana". Tāds divdimensionāls good/bad vērtējums, kas nešķiro dažādus pieredzējumus, man ir plakans. Laizīšanas maņu pieredzes, protams, ir subjektīvas u. tml., bet tās tomēr pasaka par banānu kaut ko konkrētāku, abstrahējamāku no pieredzētāja, turpretim domāšana tāda nav.

Šeit arī tiek jauktas kopā divas lietas – sevis zināšana (vai banāns tiek pie banāna banāna?) un cita zināšana (vai es tieku pie banāna banāna?), kuros šī atšķirība iezīmējas jo stiprāk.

Kā jau nojaut, es nepie*os autoriem, vienkārši turpinu viņu aizraujošo domu.
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From:[info]ctulhu
Date:2. Aprīlis 2022 - 13:12
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Banānam tak ir miza, tur laizīšana neko nedod, jānomauc vispirms
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From:[info]koriandrejs
Date:2. Aprīlis 2022 - 18:00
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es vienkārši domāju, ka laizīšana un domāšāna ir kvalitatīvi dažādas lietas = rada kvalitatīvi dažādus datus, tā teikt
honeybee -

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