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From:[info]sramgni
Date:April 3rd, 2018 - 03:28 pm
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Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

From:[info]brookings
Date:April 3rd, 2018 - 05:59 pm

genuine question

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What do you call an adult who wnats to have sex with, say a 12 or 13-year old girl, who has just gone through puberty?
From:[info]gnidrologs
Date:April 3rd, 2018 - 11:25 pm

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Case of urgent sexual emergency.
From:[info]sramgni
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 10:07 am

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No need to call it anything, your description is just fine. Besides, just wanting something is not a crime.
From:[info]sramgni
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 10:11 am

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If you really need a fancy name, it's hebephilia, a strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent (early adolescent) children, which is typically ages 11–14.
From:[info]heda
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 11:01 am

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Child abuse ir noziegums, lai kā tev negribētos relativizēt importēto tēvocīšu noziegumus.
From:[info]sramgni
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 11:05 am

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Kā gan es varu iebilst pret to, ka tas ir noziegums, likums ir skaidrs, un tas ir teikts arī brošūrā.
From:[info]heda
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 11:43 am

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Brošūrā nav teikts, ka sekss ar viņu bērnsievām ir krimināli sodāms nodarījums.
From:[info]sramgni
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 11:09 am

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Relatīvais aspekts ir tas, ka citās valstīs ir citi likumi, vai, iespējams, noteiktu likumu nav, un tur arī ir problēma. Skaidrs, ka tavs risinājums būtu aizliegt imigrāciju.
From:[info]heda
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 11:49 am

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Un tavs risinājums būtu pārvērst Eiropu par džungļiem, respektējot katras akmens laikmeta radības "kulturālās" īpatnības.
From:[info]krishjaanis2
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 01:33 pm

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Ja ne aizliegt, tad vismaz stipri ierobežot un mainīt arī integrācijas politikas pieeju un metodes. Kas tur sarežģīts? Skaidrs, ka kreisajiem populistiem, kuri vairāk ieinteresēti nodarboties ar sofistiku un skaldīt matus lētas iecietības un sentimentālu emociju vārdā tas būs visnotaļ sarezģīti un vienmēr tiks piemeklēti argumenti, lai neredzetu ziloni istabā un neko nedarītu lietas labā.
From:[info]sramgni
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 10:28 am

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But again, not every person who fucks children is necessarily a pedofile, it's just that some people aren't picky enough or perhaps too drunk. Pedofiles are those who are primarily attracted to prepubescent children. For example, if a pedofile could choose between a child and an attractive adult, they would still fuck the child. I masturbate occasionally, but that doesn't make me a handofile.
From:[info]krishjaanis2
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 03:30 pm

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Tu taču šobrīd nenovelc morālas ekvivalences attiecības starp savu roku un mazgadīgu personu? Tiesa, no ateista tas gan nebūtu nekas pārsteidzošs.
From:[info]sramgni
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 03:35 pm

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Protams, ka nenovelku, es vispār šeit nerunāju par morāli, bet par terminiem.
From:[info]romija
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 04:54 pm

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Kāpēc tu nerunā par morāli?
From:[info]sramgni
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 05:21 pm

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Es šajā pavedienā nerunāju par morāli, jo runāju par kaut ko citu – terminoloģiju. Tas nenozīmē, ka principā neesmu gatavs runāt par morāli, lai arī šobrīd nezinu, ko tieši šeit varētu piebilst. Iespējams, tavā prātā runāt par morāli pēc definīcijas ir labi (morāli), bet tam, ko es vēlos paskaidrot par vārda "pedofīls" nekorektu lietošanu, šoreiz nav daudz sakara ar to.
From:[info]heda
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 06:20 pm

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Bet ja lieto korektus terminus - vai pravietim ar astoņgadīgo Aišu bija korekta pedofīlija jeb tomēr ir kādi relativizējoši argumenti?
From:[info]romija
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 08:21 pm

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Vārda "pedofīls" nekorekta lietošana būtu tad, ja mazgadīgas meitenes vīrs par tādu nebūtu atzīts. Mosties. Tu aizstāvi bērnu izmantošanu.
From:[info]brookings
Date:April 4th, 2018 - 06:08 pm

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Thanks: I have learnt a new word.
So what do you think about people who like fucking young girls (hebephiles?) - especially young girls who are not part of their religion (see the UK)?
What do you think about cultures who sanction marriage to barely pubescent girls?
It's okay - they are rhetorical questions. I'm assuming you don't approve.

Assuming you disapprove, should we be bringing them into our countries?
If we are, do you think these kinds of brochures will deter them from fucking/raping the young kuffar or taking child brides?
Should we show zero tolerance, or... more tolerance, or maybe help them relocate (if genuine refugees) to other countries with a culture more like their own?
Or should we have young girls pay the price for our desire to be welcoming?
Do you have daughters? Can't remember..