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From:[info]brookings
Date:January 14th, 2021 - 04:25 pm
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"The problem is -- who dares to gainsay medical establishment, when you don't know when you will need the next medical treatment?"

Vot :)

We amateurs though have to educate ourselves, though. Maybe that's something positive from this nightmare.

Thanks for your description of the situation in LV. It chimes with what I have heard. BTW, what do you know about what I had assumed was just a rumour, namely relatives being paid not to dispute the cause of death being Covid? I had written it off as bollocks, until a good friend confirmed his partner's family had been offered 400 Euro (which they refused). Are hospitals receiving extra funds for Covid patients? I still have no idea.
From:[info]formica
Date:January 14th, 2021 - 05:15 pm

CARES Act

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US tas attiecas uz kaadiem 60 miljoniem (Medicare)

https://www.dailywire.com/news/yes-hospitals-get-paid-more-for-coronavirus-coded-patients-even-if-they-havent-been-tested

".. if it’s a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they’re Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000,” ... “But if it’s COVID-19 pneumonia, then it’s $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000.”

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From:[info]brookings
Date:January 14th, 2021 - 06:00 pm

Re: CARES Act

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jā par to es biju dzirdējis. Bet vai kaut kas lidzīgi notiek šeit?
From:[info]formica
Date:January 14th, 2021 - 07:23 pm

Re: CARES Act

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"..in July, the Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko issued a statement to his people describing how the World Bank and IMF offered him a Bribe of $940 million in the form of a CoVid relief aid package and demanded he crashed the economy, impose a police state, force people to wear face-masks and impose extreme lock-downs" Batjka vinjus pasuutiija un shajaa raundaa krietni vinneeja. Paareejie aciimredzot ieliida IMF cilpaa

https://blpp.co.uk/2020-a-retrospective-look-at-something-bigger/

Banksteri uzgjenerees nulles, cik iegribees, galvenais, lai veelaak var savaakt valstis, kas apbankroteesies https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/04/imfb-n04.html
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From:[info]begemots
Date:January 14th, 2021 - 08:13 pm
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I have heard nothing about such cases. I find it implausible that any such scheme could be held in secret for long here in Latvia, if it were on large scale. Perhaps it has not yet made its ripples, and we'll hear about it soon?

On the other hand, how could any simple mortal "dispute" cause of death, which is written by the medics? Cause of death is something that medics write in, and you don't get to say "no, no, he is just resting!"

As regards COVID itself... well. The main issue with conspiracy theories is that they are not any much more believable than official statements. Not because they describe something impossible, but because they are not thorough enough -- too little data, and only describing the interpretations which suit the theorists.

Then again, consider where it all supposedly started - China. They have by now apparently quashed the COVID spread and China is now supposedly COVID free.

What do they do now? I read a journalist's account who was visiting his sick father in China, and as I understand that's what they apparently do to ALL foreign visitors without exception:

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/travel-leisure/article/3117363/my-trip-through-chinas-extreme-covid-19-quarantine

Now, while China is quite prosperous I find it hard to believe they would care to put such extreme measures on all travellers if they didn't think they made good sense for them.