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@ 2006-05-18 23:19:00

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Steve Pavlina, izrādās, ir pēdējās pāris dienās paspējis izlikt savā saitā vairākus rakstus par subjektīvo realitāti. Sāku lasīt tos & ar grūtībam tiku līdz beigām, jo gandrīz no paša sākuma mani nomocīja vairāki jautājumi, kas šajā jomā jau ilgi ir neatbildēti. Tā nu es saņēmos & uzraxtīju viņam vēstuli, kura ir izlasāma zemāk (kontexta izprašanai ļoti iesaku iepazīties ar textiem par "subjective reality" viņa blogā). Redzēsim, ko/vai šis atbildēs :))

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Subjective reality - doesn't it make existence pointless? [yeah, it's supposed to a kind-of-subject-line]

I've been reading your posts for several months now and I've mostly found them congruent with my beliefs (in fact, it often seems that you describe exactly what I think, but in a more clear and consistent way than I ever could). So today I checked your blog and found the lenghty posts about subjective reality. I read all the Q&A's and still I think I didn't find the answer to the question that has been bothering me for a long time.

So, everything exists inside one consciousness. In this consciousness/mind/system there are no "mandatory" rules, except that whatever I/you/it believes is true, and even that can be changed with the correct belief. So essentially teh system can have *complete control* over itself, unrestricted by any outside laws (as there is no "outside", right?). And even if it doesn't have this control now, that doesn't matter, because time is also the creation of consciousness, so if this control ever existed/exists/will exist, it essentially *does* exist *now*.

So, after much preparation, the main question is - if this consciousness can be in any state it desires, at any time (or without time at all), why doesn't it just make it so that it is in the best possible state? From the egoistic perspective, if I can accomplish *anything* just by apropriate beliefs, why didn't I have perfect health/wealth/happiness from the start? And if I did, why don't I have it now?

It could be said that achieving the happiness through gradual growing is more "fun"/more whatever. However, this possibly implies a belief that one way of achieving the perfect state is better than the other. Given that the consciousness has complete control over the laws that govern it and criteria for judging what is "better"... Erm, well, I just realized that if there is no time (there is only "now" or no concept of time at all), then the "way" of achieving something is completely irrelevant, because there can be no change if there is no time (I'd say change defines time and vice versa).

Ok, before I totally confuse myself :) - another question (or maybe it's the same one). If the consciousness has complete controle, how can it (I/you/anyone else) have a "purpose" or "meaning"? Having a purpose implies change, and change is unnecessary if time is unnecessary. If I recall, your aim was to something like "help people to grow". So why not make everybody "fully grown" instantly? You can do that, you just have to believe it can be done... Maybe the possibilities for growth are infinite? Okay... You still could achieve that infinity instantly (and don't you say it isn't possible ;)). Maybe you enjoy the process of helping other people, so you choose to believe that the process of growth is gradual? Hmm... then what are your reasons to believe that you enjoy it? Remember, it's only your belief that you enjoy it. You could as well be enjoying something else. What is the criteria for choosing the source of enjoyment? Is that criteria still the result of your beliefs?...

In short, if the consciousness that creates the subjective reality can do everything, why would it do anything?

I don't have answers to those questions and it's driving me slightly crazy :) I realize that I'm seeking for an external purpose/meaning for my life / existence of anything... but really, can a purpose for a system be defined completely by the concepts found in the system itself?

I hope you read this far without getting your brain in an endless loop :)
Cheers.


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