11 February 2023 @ 12:33 pm
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Buutu debiili, bet ticami.. ja beigaas izraadiitos, ka visas problemaatiskaas not-sure-if-god-is-nice pasaules probleemas, ir saatana apseesto cilveeku darbs, un netieshas vai tieshas sekas. Ka dabaa viss ir perfekts un maigs, bet visas katastrofas un slimiibas un viss drausmiigais, ir kaut kaadu cilveeku chakaru sekas.
 
 
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Skabičevskis[info]begemots on February 13th, 2023 - 04:04 pm
Tsk. The ability of religious people to make humanity (and by consequence themselves) feel important would be endearing, if it wasn't so infantile / sorry, couldn't resist. please forgive me ;) /

I do not abdicate my responsibility, neither that of other humans. As you might have read in my above comment, the fact that Hitler was Nazi leader, doesn't mean that each individual supporter wasn't responsible. What I don't get is that blaming ONLY of supporters, while ignoring the one who BOTH set the rules and apparently has both the OMNISCIENCE and the OMNIPOTENCE to do quite literally whatever he wants.

> The uncomfortable truth is that bad things a lot of times don't just happen to us, we welcome them by not taking responsibility and avoiding the truth

It is very true. However, your "uncomfortable" truth quite comfortably skips around ALL the other stuff that doesn't fit "your own fault" narrative. And I gave you ample examples of that in the previous comments. If god is omnipotent and omniscient, he does (or set in motion) all of the things which we don't. Which includes vast majority of things on Earth. And a lot of which we find incredibly cruel, for example.

As regards the place of humanity in world. Self-aggrandizing by assuming being god's children, while at the same time preaching humility seems pretty phariseic (to use terms of Bible). But each to his own.

Insofar as humanity is concerned, however, knowledge gives us its own version of uncomfortable truth (or approximation of that truth):

"We can take small comfort in one thing. Although right now we don’t worry enough about incoming disaster from Up There, we do worry a lot about home-grown disaster Down Here: nuclear warfare, biological warfare, global warming, pollution, overpopulation, destruction of habitat, burning of the rainforests, and so on. However, there’s no danger that human actions will wipe out the planet. Compared to what nature has already done, and will do again, our activities barely show up. One large meteorite packs more explosive power than all human wars put together, a hypothetical World War III included. One Ice Age changes the climate more than a civilization’s worth of carbon dioxide from car exhausts. As for something like the Deccan Traps … you wouldn’t want to know how nasty the atmosphere could become.

No, we can’t destroy the Earth. We can destroy ourselves."

// "Science of Discworld", Terry Pratchett.
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