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Labrīt! [Oct. 14th, 2009|11:40 am]
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From:[info]brookings
Date:October 14th, 2009 - 05:50 pm
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That's what I told her when she started moaning about 'not knowing what she's going to do with herself'. For Christ's sake, these pension-aged in-laws are a drag. 'You have' I told her 'wasted half your life working in the hospital and now it's made you ill - kāds parsteigums!' I explained to her that she was another burden and I explained to her that her bloody generation hadn't/haven't been productive and have, therefore, got what they deserve - a 70 percent cut in their working pension. It is a good thing you are too ill and old to work I told her.

'What do you mean 'productive'?' she wanted to know. I showed her Hansen's blog in Diena. 'Look at that, you dozy old bint - that probably only took him 10 minutes"

I fucking despair, I really do.
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From:[info]helvetica
Date:October 14th, 2009 - 10:31 pm
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par pensionāriem es piebildīšu, ka tie simti tūkstošu cilvēku, kas saradās Latvijā un Rīgā klāt astoņdesmitajos gados (PSRS laikos vairākkārtīgi notika galveno pilsētu teritoriālā paplašināšanāš, saistībā ar iedzivotāju skaita pieauguma prognozēm, kas, btw, mazāk uz dzimstības, vairāk uz ievesta darbaspēka un viņu ģimeņu rēkina, tika arī realizēts...) un 90`-2000šajos gados nonāk pensionāra statusā, tiesa, pensiju ir jāmaksā Latvijai ar tās, khm, khm, vairs neesošo ražošanu, nevis, piemēram, Krievijai, kuras ietvaros savulaik tika strādāts....
Piemēram, Vācija vel jorpojām veciem onkām un tantēm, kas savulaik dīpīšu nometnēs par tulkiem strādāja, maksā mazu, bet tomēr pensiju (~2-6 darba gadi)....
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From:[info]brookings
Date:October 15th, 2009 - 10:58 am
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Es saprotu, bet man liekas, ka Latvija arii (ie)mantoja infrakstrukturu, kas tika ieviesta/attistiita padomju laikaaa.
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From:[info]helvetica
Date:October 15th, 2009 - 02:56 pm
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formli jaa, tachu daudz resursu shis infrastrukturas uztureshanai un darbinashanai tika grusts no psrs puses. Viena vagona uzbuveshanai notika sadarbiba starp 148 PSRS uznemumiem, kas rezultejas taja, ka pec psrs sabrukuma, kad visas detaljas japerk pashiem, cena par gala produktu uzskruvejas tik liela, ka nav rentabli razot...
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From:[info]brookings
Date:October 17th, 2009 - 10:24 am
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OK paldies, skaidrs, ka man vajag to petiit vairaak, bet vispaar es griibeeju kaut ko citu pateikt: rakstiishu angliski - man liekas, ka tu sapratiis

It's hard enough for us to think about ensuring we have something put away for illness/old age/education for ourselves - both materially (I am a father of two and tici man, there is bugger all left after the bills have been paid) and with regard to perception (we live, more or less, for the present).

It's even harder to think about ensuring (via taxation/income redistribution) that other people have enough when ill/old/unemployed.

From you first piebilde, it's even harder to think about ensuring people from another country who were sent here have enough when old/ill etc.

I think it's got very little to do with 'productivity' - I think this is a convenient excuse - it helps us overlook our 'pofismu'.