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[Oct. 11th, 2011|09:58 pm]
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From:[info]arc
Date:October 11th, 2011 - 10:57 pm
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šī ministrija vienmēr ir izteikti bijusi "apdalīta": http://www.em.gov.lv/em/2nd/?cat=30220

vismaz būs viens ekonomikas ministrs, kurš no ekonomikas kaut ko sapratīs. nu varbūt specifiskā un ne visiem pieņemamā izpratnē, BET SAPRATĪS. atšķirībā no 80-90% no iepriekšējā lūzeru bara, kuri ir izlikušies, ka vada šo ministriju.
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From:[info]brr
Date:October 11th, 2011 - 11:10 pm
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reizēm ir labāk, ja nesaprot.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:October 11th, 2011 - 11:34 pm
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It will just give a pre-approved semblance of rational, competent understanding to a NON-DEBATE.

As you were - implementing IMF approved austerity measures to pay back creditors (with no analysis of how/why the debt was taken on and who is paying the highest price) and being efficient administrators of EU policy.

It is a non-debate because the real motive/concern is geoplitical - Latvians to the west, Russians to the east: that's it - there is really nothing more of any substance.
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From:[info]arc
Date:October 12th, 2011 - 06:06 pm
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frankly speaking, I did not understand anything. not in the sense of the words used, but the context and meaning. sorry, soy tonto.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:October 12th, 2011 - 06:27 pm
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The economic policy implemented will be favourable to IMF/EU interests because from a geopolitical point of view that is what is important to most Latvians (keeping 'in' with these interests).

As a result, I think any debate within Latvian circles about economic policy is pretty redundant and lifeless.

Having an expert as FM, whose philosophy is in harmony with those advocated by those interest groups, will just make the debate all the more deadening.
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From:[info]arc
Date:October 12th, 2011 - 06:56 pm
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well, I really do not understand why one specific person in the post of Economy or Finance minister can kill the debate about the economic policy. after all everyone can debata whatever thing he wants in this country. the main problem, to my mind, is that there are too many "competent" debaters who do not have any understanding of economics at all.

what regards the specific minister(s): the voters who voted for the ZRP party (I didn't) should have known that their economic programme was developed by Vj.Dombrovskis. also the voters voted for and gave many pluses to Valdis D. and Vilks. If these two parties form the core of the government it would be very funny that they would implement different economic policies than promised before.

of course, there always is and should be place for a competent discussion (preferably not in the style and competence level of the "economist" R.Karnīte), and the government would do well if it listened to and participated in the discussion. on the other hand I do not see any important political reason for a democratically elected government not to implement the economic policies which they proposed to implement in their pre-election programmes.

after all (this is only my IMHO, well, as all the previously told), the economics is not really a science. it is a bunch of stories like "country A did thing X in the 19xx-ties and they succeeded; so everyone has to do the same". afterwards everyone does the same and 30% succeed, 30% fail and the rest do not change their performance in any way. to my mind, science means the possibility of a controlled repeatable experiment, which certainly is not the case in economics.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:October 12th, 2011 - 07:13 pm
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In my opinion the breadth of discussion about economic policy is restricted by

a)Latvia's history and the association of state intervention with Soviet imperialism (freedom = the free market);

b)As I mentioned before, geopolitical necessities (I read somewhere about it being preferable for Latvians to drown in a clear western sea, then sink in Russian swamp);

c)A confusion of the kleptocracy (at the global level) we have now, with some kind of natural economic system governed by the 'free hand of the market.

Regarding Vj. Dombrovskis, well he believes (or states) that is a science, and he has very little (maybe no) inclination to discuss, debate or allow for differences from what I would regard as dogma.

This is what depresses me. Not any question about democracy or voting etc.
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From:[info]brookings
Date:October 12th, 2011 - 06:35 pm
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njaa, taja 'it' pirmajaa teikumaa bija par to, ka Vjaceslavs Dombrovsksis ir kaut ko sapratis no ekonomikas .. piedod - biju noguris un mazliet dusmiigs (neviz uz to, bet ...)