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From:[info]formica
Date:August 21st, 2020 - 12:45 pm

https://acu2020.org/english-versions/

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Reporter 1: “We’ve just heard patients have been admitted to intensive care. We have invited Dr. Luis de Benito…. Are hospitals beginning to increase the number of beds? Can you confirm any of this?”

Doctor: “Ah, no. I don’t believe so…. It’s true we are seeing an increase in the number of admissions. But until last week, there were almost no admissions. Yesterday we had three admissions. Three people in a hospital with more than 100 beds…. Furthermore, regarding the most crowded hospital in Madrid (another hospital)….

Reporter 1: “That hospital cancelled all surgical interventions from its planning schedule, and postponed less-urgent external consultations…”

Doctor “Regarding that hospital, yesterday it was reported they had only 75 (COVID) admissions in a hospital with 1300 beds.”

Reporter 1: “That right, and 540 infected!”

Doctor: “Are these sick people or simply ‘positive cases?’ Because the data can deceive us and confuse us. In the health centers, we administer only PCR tests, so we will find many positives [even among people without any symptoms or active infection]. Furthermore, we are now hospitalizing [presumably asymptomatic] people tested in their vehicles. We classify these positive PCR tests as “COVID-19” even though they are only [healthy, asymptomatic] people who have just been tested in their cars. So we are creating confusion by announcing, “Covid-19 cases are increasing!” when in fact, it is not true. There is an increase, but not in patients who have pathology of Covid-19.” ...At present, we see an increase in ‘cases’ that are the simple result of an increase in PCR testing. And having a positive PCR test does not necessarily mean that the person is sick.”

Reporter 1: “Are doctors and hospital staff returning [in anticipation of a new surge]?

Doctor: “Why would they?… There is no emergency.”

Reporter: “… Okay, I repeat: 540 contagious admissions and 70 in intensive care, so that the numbers are clear…. Yesterday, all eyes were focused on vaccine news… vaccines arriving from Russia and Germany. Now it seems that the vaccines won’t be ready for the fall and that Pfizer’s vaccine appears to be more effective. What do you think?”

Doctor: “Well, of course, it’s always profitable to talk about a vaccine, especially after having inculcated the fear to believe it is necessary. Because they need to sell it. The question is, whether we need the vaccine. Also, is it safe, without danger, and is it effective? But first and foremost, is it necessary or not? If it’s true that the contagion has already affected a great mass of people, then why is it necessary to vaccinate the whole population? The first thing we need to do is to vaccinate against fear because of all the social panic we have created. We doctors are perplexed by this.”
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Reporter: “What do you expect to happen [in the fall]? Are you optimistic?”

Doctor: “For us doctors, or at least the ones I’ve been in contact with, some 200 to 300 doctors and nurses in Spain, we understand that measures have been put in place to confine everyone in September by making them believe they have behaved irresponsibly during the summer. It’s an ‘interesting’ strategy because it’s more profitable [to the government] for people to not receive care in primary treatment centers… We don’t believe it’s right or practical from a medical point of view. Of course, we do NOT expect another wave…. Before the pandemic hit in March, you didn’t speak about it as you should have. But now that there is NO pandemic, you talk about it all the time! Sincerely, I don’t understand.”

Male reporter: “We’ve lost control, haven’t we?”

Reporter 1: “Your statements arouse controversy. My colleague in the studio will join us.”

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From:[info]gnidrologs
Date:August 21st, 2020 - 01:00 pm

Re: https://acu2020.org/english-versions/

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