"there is a very interesting debate raging at the moment about the nature of sin."
"and what do they think? against it, aren't they?"
"it's not as simple as that. it's not a black and white issue. there are so many shades of grey."
"nope. there's no greys, only white that's got grubby. I'm surprised you don't know that. and sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. including yourself. that's what sin is."
"it's a more complicated that that..."
"no. it ain't. when people say things are a lot more complicated than that, the means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. people as things, that's where it starts."
"oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes..."
"but they starts with thinking about people as things..."