So, even if you have never meditated, you already understand. (Holding up his stick) Do you see this? (Hitting the floor) Do you hear this? Already you clearly see and hear. Then this stick, this sound, and your mind -- are they the same or different? If you say 'the same,' I will hit you thirty times. If you say 'different,' I will still hit you thrity times. Why? KATZ!!! The willow is green, the floor is red.
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(Holding up his stick) Do you see this?
(Hitting the floor) Do you hear this?
Already you clearly see and hear.
Then this stick, this sound, and your mind -- are they the same or different?
If you say 'the same,' I will hit you thirty times. If you say 'different,' I will still hit you thrity times.
Why?
KATZ!!!
The willow is green, the floor is red.