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Date:January 3rd, 2012 - 09:37 pm

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I don't deny it. I wasn't trying to popularize "rebellion", since everybody who has at least one eye can see that it's a purely fictional concept. I'm too weak to escape the imprisonment in this consumerism riddled world, so the proposal is to embrace it and try to suck life out of it as much as possible. Admitting, that we are too lazy and too dumb, to actually do anything else except drinking ourselves to death while furiously masturbating in public places
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Date:January 4th, 2012 - 12:25 am

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well, i am simply amazed by Your quote up there. this is so far the most concrete and simplest, yet original example of how They are actually trying to get One into This. (got more examples?)

"I don't deny it. I wasn't trying to popularize "rebellion", since everybody who has at least one eye can see that it's a purely fictional concept." so tell me (if you could) - what was the point of posting this then?
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From:[info]unknown_entity
Date:January 4th, 2012 - 12:50 pm

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Well, it is a beautiful example of modern youngster pseudo-destructive attitude, that's the main reason I quoted it. And yes, it's not that hard to find or come up with more quotes like this.
Btw, being pissed off at "them" doesn't change a thing. Got any constructive suggestions? Squatting and becoming a monk is not an acceptable answer.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:January 4th, 2012 - 03:23 pm

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(with monks and Western world it's a whole different "story".) the way i see it, nothing that One does actually changes anything. this is The World we are living in (You better prefer to call it - "the imprisonment"). anti-consumerism radicals are in fact creating the same destructive and counter-productive actions, which leads to counter-culture (see: rebellion) that is driving the very Consumerism in the first place. so this also is not acceptable.
the only way how people can somehow stop the "great" Consumerism madness could be (and not One should do it but everyone) : 1. decline advertisements; 2. raise taxes (people buy NVGs because gas is too cheap, if it would not be - no one would buy it or less people would and that automatically reduces consumerism); 3. one should work without getting paid, this way one does not earn money so - can not buy (consume) anything from ones side.
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From:[info]unknown_entity
Date:January 4th, 2012 - 06:44 pm

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Oooh, another godless preacher, awesome!
First of all - consumerism is just a symptom, which stems from monetarism. If you fail to understand that - off you go in direction unmentionable. And, since we don't have any better method of motivation (unless you can propose one), we're stuck with it. And your "way" is total nonsense (even ignoring that you propose to raise taxes AND removing monetary supply as such) - to actually change anything, we should change the way we think. Repairs and free (open) technology, becoming able to fix things helps to fight consumerism much more effectively than just crying on the Internet. So, stop watching your Zeitgeist movies, stop donating money to useless utopianic projects as Venus and Humanity+ and learn a bit of engineering or do something else useful.
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Date:January 4th, 2012 - 07:38 pm

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well, i do not think that there is something wrong with Consumerism itself. i also do not think people should change something radically. the direction is wrong - why? i am not the kind of person You probably think i am. so, please, do not tell what to do. You see, people should change their way of thinking - right. and You are quite smart kid (assuming Your engineering skills and knowledge in economy) why don't You change the way You think - deal with Your "too lazy and too dumb" situation by changing Your way of thinking that the Quote up there is something Awesome (because the two readers before me seem to get the idea that this way of living is something "right" - and if you are implying this, then Your actions are not helping. they are clearing the picture but also stating that there is no solution. You admit that there is something wrong but what's the point of that, if You admit it in the way that "there also is no simply solution so we should just keep with it".)
O.K. maybe this is gone too far. don't misinterpret me. You are absolutely right about what's written ^, i am not arguing about that (don't even know why it got there). Your quote and the readers replies got me thinking - what's the point of realizing "the problem", if one keeps living while ignoring it (from this point of view, this consumerism is driven by so called rebellious attitude and also questions Ones will to consume - one really wants it or is it just "cool"?).
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From:[info]unknown_entity
Date:January 4th, 2012 - 07:44 pm

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Right now I feel like I'm throwing peas at the brick wall.

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